Some broadcasts inform. Others provoke. This Sunday’s Shake It Off with Mert & Lucas does something rarer: it confronts the collision between technology, power, and the human psyche — and asks what happens when the systems we built begin to outpace the laws meant to contain them.
On Sunday, May 10, from 7–9 PM Eastern on AM970 Radio, the show brings together two guests whose work sits at opposite ends of modern disruption — global leadership under pressure and the rise of high‑conflict personalities — offering a sharp look at the forces reshaping trust, autonomy, and public life.
Hour 1: The AI Voice Cloning Reckoning
Adm. William J. “Fox” Fallon — Decisions, Discord & Diplomacy
The hour opens with a chilling truth: your voice — your emotions, your cadence, your identity — can now be stolen in seconds. The hosts break down how AI voice cloning has already fueled scams, misinformation, and deepfake manipulation, and why lawmakers, studios, and families are scrambling to catch up. It’s a conversation about ownership, vulnerability, and the unsettling question of who gets to sound like you.
The episode then shifts to Adm. William J. “Fox” Fallon (Ret.), whose new book Decisions, Discord & Diplomacy pulls back the curtain on global tension points and the high‑stakes choices that shaped his career. A former Commander of U.S. Central Command and Pacific Command, Fallon has spent decades navigating geopolitical flashpoints, military strategy, and the quiet negotiations the public never sees. His perspective grounds the hour in real‑world leadership — the kind forged in crisis, conflict, and consequence.
Hour 2: The Right to Disconnect Fight
Bill Eddy — Why We Elect Narcissists and Sociopaths
Hour 2 tackles America’s “always on” work culture — a world where late‑night emails, unpaid after‑hours labor, and digital tethering have quietly become the norm. The hosts argue that the push for a legal right to disconnect is really a push for boundaries, dignity, and the basic human right to reclaim your own time.
The hour concludes with Bill Eddy, LCSW, JD, author of Why We Elect Narcissists and Sociopaths. Eddy is one of the country’s leading experts on high‑conflict personalities — individuals whose behavior destabilizes workplaces, families, and political systems. His work blends psychology, law, and conflict resolution to explain how certain personalities rise to power, why they attract followers, and what it means for the rest of us. His insights offer a clear, psychologically grounded look at influence, persuasion, and the patterns that shape public leadership.
Extended Guest Profiles
Adm. William J. “Fox” Fallon
A four‑star admiral with a career spanning more than four decades, Fallon has overseen some of the most sensitive and consequential military operations of the modern era. As head of U.S. Central Command, he managed U.S. military strategy across the Middle East during a period of intense global scrutiny. As Commander of U.S. Pacific Command, he navigated the complex diplomatic terrain of Asia‑Pacific relations. His book distills a lifetime of strategic decision‑making — the pressures, the politics, and the human cost of choices made at the highest levels of government.
Bill Eddy, LCSW, JD
A therapist, attorney, mediator, and co‑founder of the High Conflict Institute, Eddy has spent decades studying the psychology of individuals who thrive on chaos, manipulation, and division. His work explains why high‑conflict personalities succeed in politics, how they exploit emotional narratives, and what voters can do to recognize — and resist — their influence. His frameworks are used worldwide in legal systems, workplaces, and government agencies.
Extended Host Profiles
Lucas A. Ferrara
A New York attorney, law professor, award‑winning film producer, and editorial strategist, Lucas brings a rare blend of legal precision and narrative instinct to the show. His work spans litigation, media, and storytelling — a combination that allows him to interrogate complex issues with clarity, skepticism, and a sharp eye for what’s being left unsaid. As co‑host, he anchors the show with muscular analysis, real‑world experience, and a talent for cutting through noise to get to the structural truth of a topic.
Mert Roberts
Known for incisive analysis, grounded perspective, and sharp, engaging debate, Mert approaches every topic with a journalist’s curiosity and a strategist’s discipline. His commentary blends cultural insight, political fluency, and a knack for framing issues in ways that spark conversation — and confrontation. Together with Lucas, he creates a dynamic that is equal parts rigorous, provocative, and deeply human.
Tune In
LIVE on AM970 Radio
Sunday, May 10 | 7–9 PM EDT
Replays on Apple, Amazon, iHeart, Spotify, and more.
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