SHAKE IT OFF WITH MERT & LUCAS — JULY 19
Some Sunday nights don’t whisper—they press their thumb on the bruise. They remind us that citizenship isn’t a spectator sport, that service leaves marks long after the uniform comes off, and that the systems we inherit only stay honest if we insist they do.
This week’s SHAKE IT OFF WITH MERT & LUCAS, LIVE! turns the spotlight on two guests who confront the myths America tells itself—one about who belongs, and one about what we owe the people who served.
Hour 1: Prof. Richard Epstein, author, The Myth of Birthright Citizenship
Prof. Richard Epstein has spent decades dissecting the constitutional architecture most people take for granted. In The Myth of Birthright Citizenship, he challenges the assumptions baked into our national identity and forces a reexamination of what the Fourteenth Amendment actually promises—and what it doesn’t.
A prolific scholar and one of the country’s most provocative legal thinkers,Epstein brings historical rigor, constitutional analysis, and a willingness to interrogate sacred cows. He joins the show to explore how citizenship is defined, how courts have shaped the debate, and why the conversation is far more complex than political slogans suggest.
Hour 2: Alicia Scovill, U.S. Air Force Staff Sergeant (Ret.) & Veteran Advocate
Alica Scovill serves as a principal at Scovill Construction, guiding the firm’s strategic direction and overseeing major projects. As a former Air Force Staff Sergeant, Alicia knows the military not as an abstraction but as a lived reality—one marked by discipline, sacrifice, and the quiet battles that continue long after discharge papers are signed. As a veteran advocate, she works to expose the gaps in support systems that promise care but often deliver bureaucracy.
Her work shines a light on the emotional toll of service, the challenges veterans face navigating civilian life, and the urgent need for reforms that treat veterans as people, not paperwork. Scovill joins the show to talk resilience, responsibility, and what it really means to honor those who served.
About the Hosts
Lucas A. Ferrara — New York attorney, law professor, award‑winning film producer, and editorial strategist. Lucas brings legal precision and narrative muscle to every exchange, cutting through spin to reach substance.
Mert Roberts — A seasoned commentator whose wit and grounded analysis keep every conversation unpredictable, alive, and unmistakably human.
Tune In
LIVE on AM970 Radio or the AM970 mobile app Sunday, July 19 | 7–9 PM Eastern
Replays stream everywhere: Apple, Amazon, iHeart, Spotify, and more.
More info: shakeitofflive.com
Some shows talk about citizenship and service. This one asks what they actually mean.
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